Tommy is back in the news… and no matter how you spin it, it’s not good!

By Posted on: December 12th, 2012 in Member Post 11 Comments »

Isn’t it funny… his name just will not go away… Tommy Tuberville is once again in the news. And it’s not that he doesn’t belong there. He is a very successful coach by anyone’s standards.

No, Tubs is in the news for his actions. And my view is that actions always, ALWAYS, A-L-W-A-Y-S speak louder than words.

What is it that Tommy is accused of doing?

Several things:

First, it is being reported that Tuberville didn’t give any warning of his departure from Texas Tech. It’s funny now when I think about it because this man’s actions no longer affect Auburn. But seriously, is this any different than what he did while he was here? No. Not really. He warned repeatedly while at Auburn that he was being considered for this job and that job. If I heard that he was being considered for Texas A&M or Arkansas… I heard about it a thousand times. And that was a thousand times too many.

Tommy said today in an interview with Tim Brando that coaches “we’re all hired guns” when it comes to changing jobs. Really Coach? “That’s basically what we are as football coaches,” he said. “Everybody says, ‘This is Mr. Georgia or Mr. Alabama.’ It’s just a football coach.”

So that is how it is? You owe your employer nothing? Expletive deleted.

No wonder.

Let it be known that his response bothers me. It bothered me while he was here. I want a coach that WANTS to be at Auburn. That is happy with the outrageous fortune he is “earning” and that he does a fair to exceptional job in order to support the amount he is being paid. The problem with Tuberville is that he could never get enough. If you saw his home at Lake Martin you would understand.

Next it is “HOW” he left Texas Tech that is something to pay attention too. It is being reported, and I have to laugh when I hear this, that Tuberville literally left in the middle of dinner with potential recruits at the table.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-12-12/did-tommy-tuberville-leave-texas-tech-recruits-at-dinner-to-accept-cincinnati-jo

One of the offensive line recruits, Devonte Danzey, said that he had just asked how long the coaches expected to be at Texas Tech. “(Tuberville) was just telling me he coached at Miami and Auburn, he coached 10 years and recruited Ray Lewis and kind of blew the question off I didn’t even realize. The waitress brought our food out, and we thought (Tuberville) went to the bathroom, but he never came back to dinner. The next thing I know, the next day, he made an announcement that he’s going to Cincinnati.”

But wait, that’s not the end of the story. Oh no. How can this bizarre story go without some sort of rebuttal? Today a Cincinnati spokesman stated that Mr. Danzey’s story wasn’t true. “Those reports are inaccurate. There was no contact between Coach Tuberville and Cincinnati prior to Saturday morning. Coach said he was at dinner, talked with everyone, ate and went home.”

Expletive deleted.

Did I just hear that right? On a whim, the University called up Tubby thinking he might want the job?  I find this hard to believe.

And Coach Tubs. I guess you finally figured it out, an 18 year old was trying to slander you or your new school that you’re so loyal to so you trotted them out to defend you?  Bizarre.

And potential recruits: be glad that you know about him now before you sign the letter of intent. Karma repaid. It kind of reminds me of a skit I heard years ago with Cheech and Chong and it goes something like this: if it looks like crap, smells like crap and tastes like crap… be glad you didn’t step in it. I know, but it was funny when I was 10 and I thought it was particularly poignant now.

Tuberville might have been a good coach at one time… but I remember another time where he feigned interest in loyalty to a program.  It put things in perspective about the man from that point on… “they will have to carry me out of Oxford in a pine wood box.” Powerful image… but painfully true for every program he has ever gone too.  Tuberville represents what is wrong with the game. He is the very definition of what the “relationship” shouldn’t be. Money focused. Where expectations for both the coach and the school never match and for all intensive purposes never will. He is there for one thing only: to make a pay check. Cincinnati thought they hit a home run with the hire. After this story gets traction… and it will, I doubt they will feel as “high” on Tubs as they did.

Just remember Bear cats, you get what you pay for. But I’m curious what it is you thought you bought?

Still, I don’t think it’s fair to generalize all coaches into this category. While it may be true, most do a dang fine job hiding it. Regardless, it is my fervent hope that Coach Tubs is the aberration as opposed to the norm when it comes to loyalty.

WAR DAMN EAGLE!

  1. inkyd62 says:

    I know exactly how you feel. Agree with your conclusion. But don’t cry for Cincinnati. Remember, they had Bob Huggins for 16 years and one of the lowest, if not the lowest, graduation rate in NCAA D-1 basketball. It’s not like they have any integrity or virtue…..

  2. KungFuPanda9 KungFuPanda9 says:

    There were a lot of people who wanted Petrino as HC and he did the same thing.

  3. autigerintn69 says:

    I honestly don’t understand why you have such harsh feelings towards Tuberville. He was a great coach at Auburn. He kept us out of NCAA trouble and represented the university well.

    If he left in the middle of dinner, that is wrong and unacceptable.

    Are coaches really hired guns? Yes, they are. Are you mad at him for speaking the truth? Every coach is as loyal to the school as the next paycheck. Just as the school is as loyal to the coach as the next win. That is just a simple fact of the world we live in. I’m not saying that’s the right way to be, but why get mad at coaches and schools only because we are talking about millions of dollars in salary? The same thing happens to ordinary workers every day who only make $10/hour or $100,000/year. The size of the paycheck and the t-shirt they wear has nothing to do with the decisions they make.

    You want somebody who wants to be at Auburn then hire an Auburn alumnus. Malzahn didn’t graduate from Auburn, Saban didn’t graduate from Alabama, Miles didn’t graduate from LSU…and on and on.

    • TigerWoman says:

      Hear, hear!

    • KungFuPanda9 KungFuPanda9 says:

      Have to agree with the TigerMan. Grimes had an offer to go to Texas and turned it down, perhaps out of loyalty to the program and the players. But right now his neck is on the block. If we slam coaches for leaving under less than ideal circumstances, then the university, and we as fans, should be held to the same standards of loyalty, whatever that might entail.

      Coaches get fired sometimes due to no negative action on their part. They just got caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well, from a coaches perspective, maybe schools get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

      From a few articles I’ve rad, Tubs was never embraced at Tex Tech, much in the same way Rich Rod was given the cold shoulder at Mich. These two coaches replaced very popular coaches. In Tub’s case, I’m sure he sees what is possible at Tex Tech, and has decided he has better opportunities at Cinn. He probably kicked himself for taking that Tex Tech job as soon as the Tenn job opened up.

      Let him be measured by how diligently he coached for Tex Tech when he was there. I think he tried his best. He won a few big games for them and also showed them the value of a good defense.

    • Tigerstripe Tigerstripe says:

      Agreed. Look at it this way: coaches, administration, players are only loyal to that thing in our back pocket that we sit on…the wallet.

      Coaches understand that if they win, people will fill the seats and then they have a bargaining chip to negotiate a raise.

      Players can’t get to our wallets so they settle for food, housing, education for 3-4 years but the bottom line for them is what program can I display my talents in order to get to the NFL and be in control of their own financial destiny. Follow the players on twitter and you will see what they are really “ALL INto”.

      Administrators are the same. Hire winning coaches who run clean programs, stay out of police reports and have high graduation rates so I can show how brilliant I am in front of the BOD so they will gratiously sign that much deserved bonus.

      Let’s face it; the only ones who will be here year end and year out are us – the fans and alumni. We are loyal to our family and when we don’t win, we will find other ways to shower gifts on our family and we will decide to spend our entertainment budget elsewhere like Orlando.

      Don’t get me wrong, occasionally we run into an “Auburn Man” and we love him for that but typically, it’s everyone for himself. What would our perception of Bo be today if Bear told him that he was going to start as a freshman???

  4. wde1988 wde1988 says:

    Valid points. You guys remember the good. However I choose to remember the bad:

    “I can fix it” and then his sudden departure.

    Duck hunting during recruiting season… and then going? What were doing again when we thought we had the “hay in the barn”?

    Or maybe the example of a tenured ten year coach and his staff who gets run out by the new guy without a fight.

    Bitter? Still?? Damn straight.

    If the man were on fire… I doubt I would… well, you can figure it out.

    WDE

    • KungFuPanda9 KungFuPanda9 says:

      Okay, those are different points. His leaving Tex Tech was not the same. He put in a good effort there, I thought.

      His actions during his waning days at Auburn were not spent giving his best effort. So I agree with you on those points. In fact I have my own beefs with Tommy. I thought we were usually unprepared for opening games. I thought he failed to go out and recruit with gusto at the end. Instead he gave clinics at uburn and if guys attended he seemed to more or less pick from them.

      He failed to support Tony Franklin. He was too loyal to his BBQ buddies. He was too cautious in games once we got a lead and played not to lose instead of to win.

      He left time expire rather than making a few extra plays. (By contrast, Malzahn’s biggest assets in my opinion is that he will often go for it on 4th and short, and will almost always run plays when he has time left.)

      Tommy’s worst transgression, and for me the final straw, came during the Vanderbilt game in 2008 when it was pretty cold. He was wrapped up to his nose in a big heavy jacket. But he refused to turn on the heaters for our team and let them freeze on the bench. That violates so many leadership principles as well as risks the injury of players, I lost all respect for the man.

  5. Third Generation Tiger Third Generation Tiger says:

    I thought Tuberville was a good interim hire. That is to say, a good coach to get us back on our feet until what we really wanted came along. Much the same way many of us thought about hiring Bobby Petrino this time around. Our mistake as fans, was to ever think that Tommy Tuberville turned into what we really wanted as a head coach. He was, and is nothing more than a good defensive coordinator masquerading as a good head coach. Mix in some used car salesman, and you have TT. The Jetgate Boys should have acted like men and fired Tuberville without all the ridiculous sneaking around. It made them look like they were doing something wrong when all they were doing was replacing a coach that had reached his Peter Principle limit. It turned a mediocre coach into a martyr. Everything happens for a reason though. They didn’t follow through and hire a better coach, but much greater evil than Tuberville. Chiz came in a little later, recruited a stockpile of talent, and won a BCSC. I wish he had been the man for the job. A couple of poor staff moves and maybe a little narcissism doomed him.Thanks for the effort Gene. I know you will land on your feet. Enter Gus Malzahn. Maybe I’m a little like Charlie Brown, year after year, trying to kick that darn football while Lucy reassures me that she won’t yank it away. Maybe so, but I choose to believe that Gus is making all the right moves. More sound staff hires and better recruiting targets. His demeanor so far is one of intensity, integrity, and no prima donas tolerated. Right on Gus. Right on. I have a sneaking suspicion that Lucy won’t be looking this time and I’ll send the pigskin sailing.

    WDE

    • wde1988 wde1988 says:

      Absolutely. The moral of the debacle on the Plains in 2003 was when you are going to fire a coach… make sure you actually fire the coach before you search for his replacement.

      WDE