Sunday Sound Off: Deja Vu Edition

By Posted on: October 21st, 2012 in Football 21 Comments »
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It’s hard to put into words what has become of this 2012 Auburn football season. With the odds of Auburn winning a conference game this year pegged at slim to none, what must be done on the Plains to right the ship? Is it time to show Gene Chizik the door? Do you give him another year to straighten things out?  Big decisions must be made in the coming days. What would you do if you held the keys to Auburn’s football future? I hope you’ll weigh in and give us your thoughts.

Should Gene Chizik be Fired at Season's End?

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  1. Jonathon Jonathon says:

    Prior to Saturday I was pretty sold on Chizik being ‘let go.’ I think that the situation has now become deeply rooted throughout every facet of the program. Chizik no longer coaching at Auburn is inevitable. What I’m not sure of is when that will happen. Will Auburn fired Jay Jacobs this year and bring on a new AD while keeping Chizik on board but requiring him to let Loeffler go? If they do that, then the opportunity is out there to allow the new AD to settle in and assess the situation first hand before making the next big move. Of course we would have to endure another season under Chizik with the same group of kids that have outright ‘given up.’ I don’t think anyone can sit back and truly believe that the players feel the season can be saved from here. Under Chizik these kids will carry this over into next year with all the media talk about Chizik being fired this season, next season, etc.. These are Dark Days my friends.

  2. sparkey sparkey says:

    Chizik needs to go and it needs to happen sooner than later even possibly midseason. At this point, I’m okay with that kind of move. Desperate times call for desperate measures and I think we’re here.

    • Tiger on the mountain Tiger on the mountain says:

      So, we get rid of Chizik mid season…who takes over? An even larger question is, who with any measure of intelligence and skill would willingly go to work at a place that ousters it’s MNC-winning coach mid-season…only a few years removed from winning said MNC???? The Bigger Picture is being missed in a big way, in favor of knee jerk reactions.

      JJ and his cronies go first. The new AD can make decisions after that….

      • Pine Mt Tiger Pine Mt Tiger says:

        Your right but what i don’t understand is why Loeffler is still calling plays.

        • Tiger on the mountain Tiger on the mountain says:

          You and me both. But do you really think getting rid of Chizik mid-season would change that?

      • theoldguard says:

        I think you are asking the wrong question. From what is being said in the mainstream media no one is going to blame us for firing Chizik. The question we should be asking is: Now that the time has come to fire Chizik, what kind of home run HC would want to come to a school & program, supported by a fan base, that is largely resigned and or satisfied with mediocrity or worse ?

        It seems pretty evident that if we don’t fire him sooner than later we are less than committed to the football program specifically & the athletic program in general relative to their importance to the Auburn family and the power that it has to represent & embody everything we believe.

        I hate to tell all y’all but what we are seeing on Saturdays is not a fitting representation of what I believe Auburn to be.

  3. restless6 says:

    A friend posted this today. Opinions?

    TheMayorOfChillville, on Yesterday, 09:05 PM, said:

    “I really wish I could believe or have hope that we would go get a guy like Gruden or Cower or Dungee. That would be great. That would be a total grand slam and would immediately strike fear in the hearts of LSU, AL and the rest of college football. Sadly, that’s not how we do things at Auburn. To get a guy like that you have to get out of the way and turn the program over to them. A guy like that will not come to Auburn or any other school without having complete control of his program. That’s the problem at Auburn. We have too many people who want to have their hand in the say so of the program…and it’s not Pat Dye though many like Finebaum try and convince you of that. Pat Dye doesn’t have near as much power as people act or think. Instead of going out and getting a grand slam hire, we want to go get a guy like Bobby Petrino and tell him he has to keep Van Gorder and maybe one or two others and tell him who his support staff is and who his G.A.’s are and who his strength coach is etc. etc. etc. The powers that be do not want to allow someone to come in and run the program. They want to run it and have these little puppet coaches run the day to day operations.

    All of this is fact…not rumor. And it’s worse than this….And I don’t want to go off on this a lot but I have been screaming to whoever would listen (nobody) that Tim Jackson needed to go since Cam was here. Tim Jackson’s basic role is to watch over the coaching staff’s shoulders during the game and report back to Double J, who by the way is just a puppet himself. Double J doesn’t make a decision without calling 9 or 10 people and asking them what they “think”. At any rate, Tim Jackson also takes the role of babysitter for any players like Cam that you may want to get autographs from. Now, some people probably think this is a good idea, but I ask you to look at how this effects the rest of the team. What happens is, you end up having the Auburn team and then a couple of rock stars who are treated differently, complete with entourages while the rest of the team is separate and have separate rules 90% of the time. It’s not healthy for the team and it’s not an effective way of uniting or creating a team atmosphere. If Auburn has a Gustapo, its name is Tim Jackson. Imagine going to work next week and your boss standing over your shoulder everywhere you went except the bathroom. Yeah…that’s what Chizik is dealing with.

    This is also the reason why I am not in favor of Auburn hiring Bobby Petrino and trying to keep Van Gorder or other coaches they like. If Auburn wants to take its football program to the place LSU and Alabama are in currently, they have to get a coach who will kick Tim Jackson off of the sidelines and run his program the way he sees fit. Auburn has had 3 coaches in its history that did this and they are our most successful coaches. Shug, Dye and Tuberville all told the powers that be where they could go. Tuberville, of course eventually couldn’t fight it anymore and wore himself thin (remember Jimmy Raines) ….Enter Gene Chizik and the Gustapo. Now we’re seeing Gene Chizik run out of steam and what it looks like we’re going to get is another puppet of the powers that be running our beloved program. It’s not going to work and it will never work until we get a coach that kicks these folks off the sidelines and takes control of the program.

    This is why I believe we will not go out and get a big time hire and why we didn’t go get one when we hired Chizik. In my opinion and I will state that this is just my opinion so as to not try and start rumors or whatever, this is why we will hire Bobby Petrino and announce it after the AL game. I hate it. I think it stinks. It frustrates the heck out of me, but I believe Petrino will be our next coach. Here’s to hoping I’m wrong. Cheers.”

    If this true, it should infuriate the Auburn fanbase.

    • sparkey sparkey says:

      Yeah, I have seen that post too and there is more truth to it than anybody wants to admit. We need all of those guys out there.

      • restless6 says:

        My confidence in Auburn being up to the levels of Bama, LSU, Florida, etc, has been waning for sometime. Today, it is gone.

        I think the hole is so deep right now, that there is no other choice than to fire JJ and purge the entire football staff. The season is lost, and next year looks bleak.

        Hit the reset button in a big way.

  4. KoolBell KoolBell says:

    At this, our low point in the history of Auburn football, and the skid hasn’t stopped yet, we find ourselves asking very tough questions for these very tough times. Gene Chizik’s story at Auburn can most certainly be named “it was the best of times, and the worst of times”.

    I am not smart enough to know what all goes on behind the scenes, nor should I know. I am merely an Auburn fan, and one that didn’t even go to school at Auburn. I understand all the frustration, I truly do. This hurts me to say this, but this Auburn team has done the least with the most talent that has been at Auburn, maybe in our storied history.

    Something has to change, and Chizik knows its all on him, and he is man enough to accept that.

    WAR EAGLE!

  5. Tiger on the mountain Tiger on the mountain says:

    Bobby Petrino can not possibly be a viable option. Seriously. Well, I guess our PR folks would be earning their paychecks. At least someone in the athletics department would be.

    Honestly, any coaches changes would be futile unless JJ is shown the door.

  6. Frank Drackman says:

    I can take the Asthmatic Offense, Constipated Defense, Play calling with the imagination of UGA(the dog, not the School) Alcoholic Center, and Jerry Sandusky-esque abuse of a future NFL star receiver,
    but when a Head Coach(Who I supported BTW, hell, celebrated, when he popped off that jet)can’t get Trooper Taylor to wear his cap correctly(Jeezus, he looks like a Black “Turtle” from “Entourage”(You know I’m right)maybe its not surprising that we’ve got Vandy cleat marks in our Derry-airs.
    And I like Franklin, even if his facial hair looks like he oughta be directing Pornos,
    you know, like Auburns XXX 2012 season, which is X-rated except for its lack of money shots.
    Alabama -80, anyone?

    Frank “All out” Drackman

  7. mikeautiger says:

    JJ said when he hired Chizik it was going to get worse before it got better but there was a plan. Before last season and during it JJ said last year was going to be tough and this year was going to be worse. Because of this unless JJ goes I think Chizik stays and next year will be deciding year.

    Several things have given us this bad year and they have snowballed. First after the deaths of our players this Summer got our heads messed up (see my article Root Problem, Compound Grief), add in two new coordinators, and overall youth, we see that all the little things have been multiplied. If you look at a few key penalties, a few over thrown passes, a few mental errors and they go the other way we are sitting with a winning season.

    Football is a game of inches and sometimes things just don’t fall your way. I was just watching Cam trying to throw a simple pass he never missed in 2010 and he over threw a certain TD for the Panthers. I think if we address some O problems work hard til next year we will be right back in the hunt for SEC and maybe higher goals.

    I coached several sports that I played and 2 years come to my mind. Once when I took over a football and a basketball team, changed the systems and we had a tough 1st year, but I stuck to the plan and it was very frustrating till the kids got it down, we had a loosing season in both. Young kids, new systems, and lots of the same things we see in Auburn this year. Then next year, undefeated in both and won the championships. I believe we will see the same thing happen at Auburn if we stick with a good coach in Chizik, he just did not turn stupid after being a good coach. Even if we change coaches we will have a good year next year but probably not as good mainly because we have good talent that will have had time to mature and get their heads on straight after a tragic year that has had a greater impact than anyone can even understand.

    Hang in there we will be back with a vengeance and it is closer than we think.

    War Eagle

    • restless6 says:

      No offense, but this has a heavy dose of sunshine pumping and delusions.

      5-19 Pre Auburn. Ya’ think that some of this sunshine pumping happened at ISU?

      My patience as a fan is near the end with this team, as we have cancelled plans to attend a game this year. My patience with sunshine pumpers is gone.

      These sunshine pumpers are satisfied with mediocrity as compared to the big dogs in the conference. If this is what it now means to be an Auburn fan, I’m not All In.

      My guess is a lot of fans will feel the same.

  8. mikeautiger says:

    Remember Chizik said “it is never as good as it seems and never as bad as it seems,”

  9. Pine Mt Tiger Pine Mt Tiger says:

    Auburn’s biggest problem is Loeffler coaching quarterbacks, Loeffler calling plays, and Loeffler not being fired or demoted !!!!

  10. MyAuburn myauburn says:

    Franklin debacle be damned. Loeffler has to be demoted or fired tomorrow.